We have gotten quite the response since the votes tilted to the “abort” side; many of these messages have been in the form of private emails. I would like to take an opportunity to respond to them in this public setting, while keeping the names of the individuals that sent me the emails private.
People at a site called 4chan (specifically the /B/ boards) have been posting images of nude women to encourage others to vote. According to Wikipedia, there is a great deal of controversy involving 4chan ranging internet Denial of Service attacks, Cyber Bullying, and actual threats of violence. One 4chan user even posted videos of himself abusing his cat Dusty in order to get attention.
The most vocal email we received also described the 4chan community:
4chan, specifically the /b/ board, has a limit to the number of threads that can be accessed at any given time. These threads typically move very quickly, and so unless you’re relatively fast, you won’t see the same thread that someone has linked to you.
That being said, treating members of 4chan as normal humans is a terrible mistake. Child porn, aborted fetuses, butchered genitalia, rape, dead babies, porn, and a plethora of other inappropriate content can be found regularly on 4chan. They don’t care if they hurt others. It’s fun for them.
Members of 4chan typically operate as a single, destructive “super-entity” whose only goal is to do stuff for the “lulz.” “Lulz” are things considered to be funny at another person’s expense.
I feel very strongly that you should only use the results of the poll from a date before members of 4chan polluted the polls. Telling 4chan members that what they’re doing is “wrong,” or encouraging them to “do the right thing” will not work. You cannot convince these people to act with any sense of morals, logic, reason, or conscientiousness. If anything, it will only give them more reason to mess up the life of someone else (namely you).
By allowing the polls to be shifted from members of 4chan, you are effectively having the votes of everyone that cares go unheard. I urge you to not make that mistake.
I understand the frustration some of you hold with our decision to not limit votes from 4chan or remove the vote completely.
I see 4chan as encouraging people to vote in the poll. How they do it is beyond my control and should not influence decisions about what we are doing here. We support people encouraging others to voice their opinions on an issue as large as keeping a baby or not. The whole point of what we are doing is to allow you as an individual to make a difference. Many here have voiced their concern, but as you can see by the face-book links in the upper-right of each posting, few have acted upon them. The members of 4chan are not the only ones who can get others to sway the result. And as much as many do not approve of what they are doing, I have pondered this a great deal. We don’t see a difference between this and what politicians or supporters do in regards to campaigning.
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I will take your baby. I have lost 3 sweet ones within 3 years. I have wanted nothing more than to have a sweet baby. I understand you are indecisive. I would love nothing more than to take this sweet thing off your hands if you’re unsure about being parents. My heart broke each time I thought there was the potential for a baby and it ended in painful loss. Even after confirmed heartbeats and seeing my own little wiggles in ultrasounds. Please know that you have what I and so many other women want. Yes, it’s a choice, but I didn’t get a choice in whether or not I kept mine.
Your baby is now 7-9 inches long, almost half of his birth length; he weighs almost 1 pound. A white, greasy protective coating called vernix caseosa has just begun to form on your baby’s skin. If you were to take a peak at him now, you would see he is looking pink, translucent, and quite wrinkled. He may have some head hair and eyebrows by now. He can make facial expressions, frowning and grimacing expressively. His ears are well developed and he can hear your voice and your heartbeat. He has regular sleep and wakeful periods as he develops his daily patterns. His testicles have started to descend into the scrotum.
There is no denying, your little boy will also feel the pain. The abortion you are speaking of is called: Dilation and Evacuation (D&E)
This method is used up to 18 weeks’ gestation. Instead of the loop-shaped knife used in D&C abortions, a pair of forceps is inserted into the womb to grasp part of the fetus. The teeth of the forceps twist and tear the bones of the unborn child. This process is repeated until the fetus is totally dismembered and removed. Usually the spine must be snapped and the skull crushed in order to remove them.
This is the reality of what you are considering doing to your baby boy who did nothing wrong but exist. I do not see how a mother or father could not in quiet moments ever find peace knowing they murdered their child so they could continue an easier lifestyle.
Mercy. Have mercy on this innocent little boy. If you can’t have mercy for your own son, where does your mercy begin?
I’m 16.5 weeks pregnant (my first), pro-choice, 40 years old and I find what you are doing to be repugnant. What is WRONG with you? Are you that insecure about your personal and political choices that you need to solicit advice from a bunch of random strangers and trolls on the internet (myself included?!).
If you are honestly this stupid, then yes, you should definitely have an abortion as I don’t want my child raised within 6,000 miles of whatever idiot you end up raising.
Maybe the miscarriages are God’s way of telling you that you shouldn’t reproduce. I’m telling you the same. You need to seriously rethink your priorities.
please do us all a favor and get yourselves FIXED. its disgusting you would even ask people on the internet what we think.
It’s a bit rich for you two to be scolding people about morals. Do you have any of your own? I doubt it.
I am against abortion but in your case I would consider an exception since you would make really bad parents.
Where’s the 3rd option: have the child but turn him over to CPS so a more deserving person or couple can adopt him?
All this bizarre pro-birth poll hoax of yours has done is establish that neither of you is qualified to be a parent.
I’M HAVING AN ABORTION RIGHT NOW!
AHHHH
THERES BLOOD EVERYWHERE?!?!?
good grief…
I think you guys should be ashamed of yourself asking people to vote on whether or not you should keep this baby or abort it! thats sickening! At the stage your in.. you better not abort that child! That baby is a person..he or she has a heartbeat and has hands and feet and working organs. How dare you think that creating this site to give people a choice or a stance on what they believe… give me a break! Apparently you are not parents yet but I am and I would die for my children without even thinking once about it! They are my world and you cant imagine how much you could love another person until you feel them kick inside you and move around..not to mention the day you finally meet face to face… there are no words that could describe how that feels! That baby deserves life…. you should always choose life!
My vote is to abort. If you’re irresponsible and/or self-absorbed enough to leave the decision up to strangers on the bloody internet, it’s best you not go through with it. Neither of you are suitable parents, judging by your attention-whoring blog and melodramatic poll.
I want to vote for you to decide for yourselves but that is not an option you are giving us. This is not representative of how couples go through the complex process of making the very serious decision of whether or not to end a pregnancy. Perhaps this is an example of how stigmatizing abortion has affected people so profoundly in this country. Public perception should not make a difference in your decision – the public will not be raising your child. However, I’m compelled to ask – if you are choosing to let the public make this very serious decision for you, how are you going to handle very complex decisions you will be faced with as parents? That is the question I think you should be asking yourselves. Pro-choice individuals like myself are not going to vote for you to abort – we are going to vote for you to decide for yourselves. The poll is moot because pro-choice people aren’t voting.
Personally, I’m waiting for the means to travel back in time to convince your parents to abort the both of you for coming up with this bullshit hoax.
I think this is sad, but I will not sling hate. This is a baby, please look at your ultrasound. This is real. I am praying for you. Please do not end your childs’ life. Parenting is not easy, but children are a blessing.
So you guys finally decided to abort the poll, then?
Definitely have the child- it is MURDER if you abort- you are cutting off a viable life. Any beating heart of an innocent child that is stopped due to selfishness is murder. You should however give this child up for adoption because there are thousands of couples who would give more than you could imagine to be in your shoes and they deserve to have a child. people who have to ask others if they should keep the child or murder it are not fit to be parents and you should definitely be using birth control forever after giving this child up for adoption. If you want, I WILL adopt this child from you to keep it from the hands of being murdered or tortured. Before you decide, why don’t you visit catholic.org and take a look at the abortion video of an actual abortion and if that does not tear your heart to pieces then you have no feelings and you don’t deserve to be parents. I personally am appalled at the idea of someone asking others how they should live their lives. Please have the child and call me if you don’t want to raise it. If you murder this child, you just might be killing off the VERY person who might have been able to save your life one day – or someone else’s. This person might have been a great leader, doctor, scientist, or any other amazing person. Just think about having to answering to God for murdering this INNOCENT child. Why don’t you give this child a VOTE? it is after all living right now. it is just stuck and has no voice because no one will give it one. I am very sad to see such a question.
Pete and Alisha. Please give birth to this baby. If you don’t want to be parents right now then give it up for adoption. I know three couples right now that have been trying for 7-15 years to have a child… two of them have been trying to adopt for 3-5 years… There are people that want that baby. I’ll take the baby! I have two kids of my own and feel like my family isn’t complete yet. Check out my blog for the adoption profiles…
http://rosannerobertson.blogspot.com/2010/06/shout-out-for-adoption-needs.html
You don’t deserve to be parents. You are both morons. Give the baby up for adoption and give people like me who may not be able to have children a chance to love a child. This is not an exercise to demonstrate how democracy works, the power of the vote, etc. This is sick. I am completely pro-choice, but why would you mount this charade on the grand stage of the web, and also let it go this long. This child can feel now, but clearly you don’t know what feeling is.
You make a complete mockery of the difficult choice to keep or abort a child, and you’ve turned it into a game.
As a 34 year old woman trying to get pregnant with no success, I feel deeply saddened. My husband and I have been trying for 3 years. We are at a level where “we” find ourselves ready at all levels. I am not saying we are perfect, but we are good human beings doing the right thing. If you were unsure of having a baby, why wouldn’t you use birth control? This is not a game. There are many couples in way better situations than you two and we have not been blessed to concieve a baby. I will pray for that baby and I hope if you choose to have him, that he never finds out the way you and your spouse have made a mockery of something so sensitive.
May God give you the strenght and wisdom to to make better choices in life. Either you are trying to stir up controversey, or you are a couple of demented people. Be blessed.
Although you may not feel ready to have a baby, let him live. Don’t kill him.
There are many good persons in the world who would take and love him.
Please see this movie: http://www.amazon.com/Ostrov-Island-version-English-subtitles/dp/B000LTTOOS
Please don’t end a human life. I apologize for all who have slung at you guys.
Please don’t end a human life. I apologize for all who have slung HATE at you guys.
The majority of the people in this world are stupid. Don’t listen to them. I’m a seventeen year old and a sophomore in college, just to provide some base credibility here. If you’re asking a bunch of ignoramuses what you should do, what does that say about you as a couple?
so where do u vote? .
Hi,
I have two children and they are the worlds greatest gift. Children are hard work but the rewards you get from seeing them grow are unbelieveable. You can not begin comprehend what feelings this little person will make you have until you hold them in your arms.
All I can say is think about what you are doing here. There are many people who would give their lives to have a child – it’s a big responsibility and you are very fortunate to have fallen pregnant.
That’s a pretty sick prank you’ve got going on.
Here: http://jezebel.com/5693386/internet-abortion-vote-looking-like-an-anti+choice-prank
Nice. Try.
Don’t kill your baby. If you don’t want your child, put him/her up for adoption.
I am against abortion and you need an option for adoption. This baby doesn’t not need to be born to the likes of you. If you wanted an abortion then you should have done that when you were early in the pregnancy. It is disgusting that you would wait until so far into the pregnancy to start this stupid publicity stunt. The only one suffering and that I am concerned for is that little baby. It is not the worlds place to make a decision for you. Be responsible adults and discuss your options among yourself. I am younger than you and have 3 kids and would never put my private information out there for the whole world to know about. You know why? Because I have common sense and am responsible for my OWN decisions and don’t act like a child and expect strangers online to do my job!! This is dumb and you are dumb for doing it!!
I wish there was something that I could say to convince you to keep your baby. After so many miscarraiges, I don’t understand why you wouldn’t want to keep wiggles – especially after he’s made it this far. I had 3 miscarraiges in a year and at 41 we decided to give up. It was biggest mistake I’ve ever made. My heart aches for the child we should have had if we had only kept trying….Keep Wiggles, he will bless your lives beyond anything you could ever hope for.
Wow, I cant believe that people like you really exist. This is about the worst case of “attention” I have ever seen. I would suggest getting yourself “fixed”, or better yet have you heard of birth control or condoms? YOU ARE THE REASON THOSE THINGS WERE INVENTED. Have your baby and give it to someone that will love it, you guys clearing have no attachment to the living person growing inside you. I would also suggest you use your great insurance to go see a shrink, you guys clearly have problems!!!!
Please have your baby. Don’t get an abortion. Your baby is already alive; you’ve seen the ultrasound pictures! Don’t kill the sweet little baby. If after birth, you decide you do not want him, then give him up for adoption. There are people out there that can help you with the adoption process. You don’t have to do this on your own. Unplanned pregnancies are always scary. But God loves you and he loves your baby. Don’t have an abortion!
You guys are assholes. I did this prank back in ’07 with helpmybabylive.com, and it was fucking hilarious, but you’re just fucking stealing my gag. Get your own joke, you unoriginal cocksuckers!
please do not abort this child, it is a living human being. I am 54 years old and I was adopted by a wonderful couple when i was 6 months old, I have had a wonderful life with two loving parents and an adopted sibling. God gave you this child if you can not find it in your heart to raise this child yourself please give it to a loving home for someone who is not as fortunate as you to be able to have a child to love and raise as thier own. Be responsible adults and do the right thing by this innocent baby
I thank my birth mother wherever she is for giving me my life. She could have aborted me but didn’t. I am grateful each and every day for her selflessness. I know my family, friends and coworkers are glad she chose to have me as well. She didn’t choose to keep me. She gave me up for adoption and a family that really wanted me raised me. Thank heavens for each of them. A child is a gift. They impact your life and make you less selfish than what you once were. Each of my children enriches my life every day. I pray you make the right decision for it is a decision that you get no second chances on. If you make the wrong one, you could regret it for the rest of your life.
This is so, so sad. Putting your child’s life into the hands of internet trolls? I’m no advocate for abortion, but I do believe in choice. YOUR choice, not a plethora of idiots crawling the web. If you do have this child don’t you think he’s going to be hurt by this big to-do that you’ve created? The internet is forever; can you imagine how he’s going to feel when he finds out that you let complete strangers decide his fate? Or how his peers might tease him? No doubt this is offensive to parents everywhere.
You are being very cavalier about a very serious decision. Seems like if you “can’t decide” then maybe you should seek counseling. There are so many women out there who aren’t able to have children or even get pregnant, so please think about how disrespectful this is (after several miscarriages yourself you should be more sensitive).
HAVE AN ABORTION AND DON’T LET SOME POOR KID END UP WITH YOU LOSERS AS PARENTS!!!! FUCKING SADDOS THE TWO OF YOU, YOU DESERVE TO BE ABORTED!
You know I don’t believe in abortion and I think is sickening that u would create a website and ask people if u think u should murder you’re child! Yes child, you are carrying a human being just as yourself, a living breathing being! There are so many couples out there that do anything and everything to try and have a child and are unsuccessful and here you are two ignorant dumb asses who get pregnant and want to murder your baby! You do not deserve the gift of a child, anyone who would create a website and ask the world to vote on whether or not they should murder their baby,does not deserve this blessing of a child! You should have your baby and give her/him up for adoption so that someone who deserves your baby can raise it properly. I would hate for you to keep the baby and then the baby grows up and learns that you did this, it is so fucked up!
Please have the baby and give him up for adoption if you are not ready to parent, what a terrible thing to do set up a poll about this, it is shameful.
This has probably been explained before, but this is my “vote”.
The issue I have with this site is that people here are not making a decision based on facts, logic, or reasoning. It has been my opinion that most human beings are irrational and emotional. Hence you have the “OMG YOU CAN’T KILL AN INNOCENT BABY!!!” crowd mixed in with the 4chan “LET THE BABY DIE!!!” crowd.
I am pro choice. This means I am all in favor of people making a decision based upon logic, reason, and facts and NOT on the whim of the Internet community. If you follow the vote to keep the baby, and you have another miscarriage or something ends up terribly wrong, you’ve made a bad choice. If you follow the vote to keep the baby when everything would have turned out OK, again, you’ve made a bad choice.
My vote is that you shut the voting off and discuss the details with each other, your family, and your doctor. Then YOU make a choice.
There is something seriously mentally wrong with this whole situation…talk to a professional asap.
I vote for full term abortion, on both of you. Seriously, this is the sickest, most abhorrent publicity stunt I have ever seen. In the decade where “reality television” rules, this kind of nonsense reigns supreme. I have a great idea. Why don’t you have the baby, hide it in your garage, and than say it accidentally climbed into a hot air balloon and is floating somewhere over the city.
If you do decide to abort, could you at least have the bad sense to put the event live on Pay Per View so we know that the cycle of deviant behavior has been completed and we can all begin the conversion to apathetic entertainment whores who are ruled by our video screens as we slowly sell our souls to the corporate media machine. Please help us achieve “digital fusion” and become one with the great God “TV” who gave us the prophet “Snookie” and the effervescent messiah “Adam Lambert”.
There is something seriously mentally wrong with someone who would do this…talk to a professional asap.
Please have the baby and then do the baby and the world a favor do not have any more
children. You two folks do not I repeat do not need to be parents. Life is a beautiful thing. You two do not have any respect for God or life such as a beautiful baby that was a gift to you from heaven above. Please get help you need it. God please protect that sweet baby that you are carrying in your body. Shame on you both as so called parents to be!!!!!!!!!!
La vida de un bebe puesta a votación. Que grandisima pendejada!!!
Los felicito muchachos. Me cae que no tienen madre.
Is this some kind of sick joke?! I am embarrassed to even be from the same planet as you two bozos. Please have the baby – its not its fault you two are idiots. Have the baby and give it up for adoption. Do the right thing for once in your sorry lives.
Even if this is some kind of f-ed up prank (as I suspect it is), you two should be ashamed of making a mockery of such a life-changing decision.
I’ve just read about this on The Sun website and find you two people the most revolting human beings i have ever read about; i cannot believe that you are comparing a babies life to voting for American Idol -TOTALLY SICK!!!!! If there is a hell then no doubt you will burn in it!
If you want to play around with human life then maybe you both should be less selfish and play around with suicide. Twisted fools not fit to be parents
You two are discussing! !! Have the baby put it up for adoption and have yourselves fixed!! Oh and find a good therapist!
Please whatever you decide to do, make sure you both get fixed so there is no chance you two will ever be able to reproduce.
Absolutely disgusting.
I think you should have this baby.
If you are married and are not sure if you want this kid, why did you marry for? marriage is to form your own family… I think is disgusting you come to this… and matureness.
Get close to Jesus, read the Bible, blind!
yall are the definition of white trash. How about you have the baby and give it to parents that actually are mature enough. Ya’ll should be ashamed. If after two miscarriages yall still aren’t sure if you want to be parents, why get pregnant at all? give me a break. I hope DHS gets involved in this case and takes this child away from what will obviously be two incredibly unfit parents.